Mar 17, 2016
Damien Lovegrove is a treasure trove of both photographic and business knowledge. With years of photographic commercial and wedding work under his belt, this knowledge is all field tested by real life. I feel fortunate that he took an hour out of his busy schedule to share some of this insight with us. To say Damien is easy to talk with would be an understatement. He is flowing with wisdom, ideas, encouragement and more.
Damien is considered by many to be one of the world's most influential contemporary photographers. These days he is best known for creating portraits that make women look amazing. Damien is known for his lighting style picture composition. If you don't believe me check out his website, Lovegrove Photography and you will soon be convinced.
He is also a fellow Fujifilm X-Photographer and ambassador. He has shot exclusively with Fuji cameras since May 2012.
Damien shoots around 1,000 frames a week. He says if he doesn't shoot that much in a week he starts to feel like he is going backwards. Yet, I never got the impression in this conversation that he is driven to the point where he runs over everyone in his way. Generous with his knowledge and experience, he speaks with me about creating what he calls that "big picture equation" that helps a photographer stay afloat financially. We also spoke about developing a style that is uniquely yours and how critical this is to your work. We cover how to take a dream and turn it into a reality and so much, much more.
Check out Damien's work at:
Personal Website: Lovegrove Photography
Mar 4, 2016
Every year after our workshop in India, Piet Van den Eynde and I spend an hour or so talking about this years new Fujifilm gear. Because we do it in the field it sometimes becomes difficult to find a good location to record these discussions. It is India after all, things are noisy. One year we even made a tent out of blankets and recorded the show under it. Not to worry, this years was a breeze. Piet and I only had to deal with noisy bellhops and stray dogs, all of this served as a background to an amazing hour of looking at the latest gear from Fujifilm. For this episode we invited camera geek and photographer Rene Debar, host of the Fuji Xtras blog to help us with our yearly overview.
One of the first topics we discuses is our workshop in India and what we did during the 10 days traveling India. The last couple of years we have been doing more and more off camera flash work. This year, we hosted an exclusive group of alumni workshop participants and we did even more flash work. We brought with us two Jinbei HD600 studio strobe (Available in the USA as the Flashpoint Rovelight RL600 - $399!), three or four Cactus RF60 Wireless Flash with Built-in Wireless Commander and Receiver and even the small Nissin I40FJ Flash for Fuji. So as you can see were were ready to light up India! All this light needed modifying, so we brought the light weight and compact Lastolite 36-Inch Trifold Umbrella and what became our favorite, the SMDV Speedbox Professional 28-inch (70cm) and A110B - Professional 44 inch (110 cm).
In this episode we also spoke about the difference between the detail you get with using off camera flash verses available light. I said I would post an example of one image shot with both flash and available light. view it HERE.
For the complete show notes and photos illustrating the use of off-camera flash visit: http://thedigitaltrekker.com/2016/03/podcast-look-fujifilm-x-pro2/
Dec 30, 2015
I had the pleasure of working with Dan Carr online many years ago when we wrote for the same photo website. He seemed like a great guy to know then and after this interview I can say for sure he is. Dan is a Brit who has transplanted himself to Canada. He shoots a wide variety of subjects so it's difficult to peg him into one genre. But he is best known for his adventure and ski photography.
Dan also operates a photography educational site called Shutter Muse where he writes about everything from the business aspects of the industry to location guides from around the world. Dan has many informative eBooks at Shutter Muse as well. In this episode we talk about how he started and his journey. Dan is full of great advice and stories that even the newest photographer will find helpful. Follow through these services:
Note: Did you notice the audio quality of this episode? I am sure you can tell it is much better than any previous episode. That is because I have purchased new mics, a new mixer and am using a service that levels the sound so you don't hear crazy levels between me and my guest. But all this comes with a cost. One way I hope to offset this cost is by offering premium or bonus material. Want to help keep Depth of Field on the air? Then take advantage of the bonus material offered below.
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Dec 10, 2015
Piper Mackay represents the dream of so many photographers out there. She was working a successful career and gave it up to follow her new found passion of photography. Her career was in the fashion industry and the area of photography that captivated her was wildlife and later cultural work. In this interview we look at how she did her own, "Great Migration". Piper speaks openly and honestly about her fears and her doubts. Did she make a mistake to follow her passion. Will she make it in the field of wildlife photography when other more experienced photographers she respects tell her she is nuts to enter. Join Piper Mackay and I talk about her journey and her struggles. This will be an encouraging shot in the arm if you are a struggling photographer. It doesn't matter if you are an enthusiast or a professional, there is nuggets in this hour that will make you say, I really can do this!
Nov 24, 2015
David Bergman is one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet. He is humble, unassuming and crazy good at what he does. David has 13 Sports Illustrated cover to his credit. He has photographed 6 presidents and numerous big name celebrities. If that wasn't enough he is the personal photographer for Bon Jovi. He is also known for his work with the Gigapan, the pano gear that enabled him to shoot the inauguration of President Obama and that has garnered over 30 million views! In this episode of Depth of Field we speak with David about his work and his views of what it takes to be a success. We talk about what’s the point of what you are shooting or why are you shooting what you shoot? What’s your attitude like? Do people want you around? What’s separates you from all the other photographers out there? Remember, we have a new feed on iTunes
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. Follow David Bergman’s works: website: davidbergman.net
Tour Images: tourphotographer.com
His Photo Book On Bon Jovi: Work
Nov 16, 2015
Timothy Allen is an English photographer and filmmaker best known for his work with isolated cultures and people around the world. He shot into the public light with his work on the BBC documentary series, Human Planet. This show took an unexpected turn during the interview. I had thought we would be talking all about travel and some great adventure stories from the road. Not so much. What we got was some amazing advice on business and marketing from a very successful photographer. This interview is rich! I love doing this show for just this reason. Incredible insight into the life of a working photographer.
Jan 30, 2013
Michael D. Davis is the photographer’s friend. Mike Davis is a photo editor. Photo editors are people photographers have a love/hate relationship with. In this interview with Mike Davis you come to see that the photo editor has the photographers best interest at heart. I found my time with Mike to be refreshing. It was one of the most laid-back interviews I have ever done and one of the most significant. Mike’s approach to what makes the perfect photo is almost spiritual. Honestly, this may be one of the most important interviews I’ve ever done. Mike gets down to the essence of what a photograph is about. He feels even the journalistic image that tells a strong story must have more to stand out above the rest. For it to be really special, it needs 5 elements that Mike goes on to share with us.
Jan 23, 2013
Kevin Russ, by his own admission likes to take the path of least resistance. This path has taken him from a shooting studio work (on a DSLR), being one of the first photographers with iStock and later becoming one of their inspectors. To now shooting almost exclusively with his iPhone and living out of his car. He sells his images both on iStock as well as society6.com, a social media website that sells prints and kitsch with your images on it. He goes where he want to go, he shoots what he wants to shoot and he lives by his own rules. Kevin Russ is his own man. I caught up with Kevin while he was in California on his way to Arizona. I had read the Atlantic article on him and felt he would add a whole new dimension to this podcast. They called him the “iPhone’s Ansel Adams”. I have interviewed wedding photographers, travel photographers, photojournalists, humanitarian photographers, why not an iPhoneographer? It just so happens that Kevin’s old roommate who introduced him to photography is a guy right here in Penang that I work with when I do video work, Nathan Watkins. So I had Nate put me in touch with Kevin and the rest is… below.
Oct 16, 2012
Douglas Kirkland is one of photography’s legends, there’s no other way around it. He’s made a treasure trove full of images of the greatest personality that we saw in the latter part of the 20th century. And by greats I mean the likes of Charlie Chaplin, Mick Jagger, Sting, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rod Steiger, Peter Faulk, Michael Caine, Dr. Stephan Hawking, Morgan Freeman, Orson Welles, Andy Warhol, Oliver Stone, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Leonardo DiCaprio, Meryl Streep, Jack Nicholson, Sean Connery, Coco Chanel, Marlene Dietrich, Peter O’Toole, John Lennon, Brigitte Bardot, Judy Garland, Elizabeth Taylor, Sophia Loren, Catherine Deneuve, Michael Jackson, Diana Ross and of course Marilyn Monroe to name only a few. It’s as if you are not famous without having a Kirkland portrait. I can imagine the Hollywood dinner parties, “Darling, you won the Academy award, how droll. But, have you had your portrait made by Kirkland”? It’s not just the celebs either. If you are a famous photographer who do you go to get your portrait made? Well, Gordan Parks, Arnold Newman, Mary Ellen Marks, Pete Turner and Howard Bingham all went to him. The man’s freaking amazing and I am proud to have had this chance to interview him on Depth of Field. You might imagine a man with this kind of pedigree might come off haughty or stuck up. But if it’s Douglas Kirkland you’d be wrong. My conversation with Kirkland was as personable as if he was my uncle and he was willing to give help and advice like a long time mentor. There’s no question you’ll enjoy this interview with one of photography’s greats.
Aug 10, 2012
Brian Smith has carved out a name for himself in photographing the rich and, as he puts it, the infamous. His list of subject is far too long to write out here, but here is just a sampling; Venus and Serena Williams, Gene Hackman, Cindy Crawford, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, The Bee Gees, Antonio Banderas, Shaquille O'Neal, Alan Greenspan, Don King, John Turturro, Anne Hathaway, Ben Stiller, Sylvester Stallone, Pope-John-Paul-II, Wynonna Judd, Richard Branson and many, many more. It is important to note that Brian Smith is not a "one trick" pony. Brian worked for years in photojournalism and has made several iconic and historically important images. If you are over 40, you probably remembers Brian's iconic image of US diver Greg Louganis hitting his head on the diving board while competing in 1988 Olympics. Brian peppered our time together with advice and pointers that every photographer will find helpful. You will enjoy this one!
Visit or follow Brian:
Stock images HERE
Jul 11, 2012
I have been looking forward to talking with Michael Yamashita for years. Yamashita is a National Geographic icon. He has shot more than 30 stories with the magazine, many of which became cover stories. Specializing in Asia, he has shot stories on Marco Polo’s journey to China, the Great Wall, The Age of the Samurai, Korea's DMZ and much, much more. Many of his stories have been turned into a National Geographic Channel documentary, The Ghost Fleet, won Best Historical Documentary at the 2006 New York International Film Festival.
Yamashita’s prior book, Marco Polo: A Photographer's Journey , sold over 200,000 copies worldwide in its initial printing . Marco Polo is also the subject of his award-winning National Geographic Channel documentaries, Marco Polo: The China Mystery Revealed, in which Yamashita retraces the 13th-century Venetian’s epic excursion to China. His other books include The Great Wall: From Beginning to End, Zheng He (Discovery), In the Japanese Garden, New York from Above and Mekong (River): A Journey on the Mother of Waters.
In this interview Mike Yamashita gives us a wonderful look into what it is like to have been a National Geographic photographer for 30+ year. We also talk about what does it take to make a great photo and so much more. Mike is easy going and open. No pretense with this man. By the end of this interview you will believe Mike Yamashita is they guy that lives next door, only with a much cooler job.
Visit Mike's Website HERE
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Jun 20, 2012
Michael Freeman is one of the photographers I had wanted to interview for a long time. His book on composition, "The Photographer's Eye" had become the first book I hand to new photographers. It is destined to become the classic treatise on composition - a must read for every photographer.
Michael is one of the most widely published photographers in the world. He has worked for most major international magazine and book publishers in a long career. A leading photographer for the Smithsonian Magazine for three decades (more than 40 assignment stories), He has also published more than 120 books on subjects as varied as Angkor, Sudan, ethnic minorities in Southeast Asia, the Shakers, and contemporary Japanese design and architecture. His 50 books on the practice of photography are standard works, and have sold almost two million copies in more than 20 languages. His contribution to teaching is the photography courses at the UK’s Open College of the Arts, now to degree level in the national curriculum. London-based, Michael Freeman travels for half of each year on shooting assignments, principally in Asia. His latest large-format reportage book is The Tea Horse Road, the result of a two-year exploration of one of the longest trade routes in the ancient world, between China and Tibet.
Visit his blog HERE.
His Open College of the Arts educational support website we talk about in the interview HERE.
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Jun 13, 2012
Eric Kim says, for him street photography happened by chance. "I was standing at a bus stop and I saw a man with horn-shaped glasses reading a book. There was something so genuine and unique about the moment. My heart was palpitating and the second I brought my camera to my eye, he looked directly at me and I instinctively clicked. My heart froze, but I made my first street photograph, without even realizing it."
Eric Kim is another one of those “nice guy” photographers. There is not a lot of ego to have to sidestep to hear honest views and listen to his story. I appreciated that. Eric seemed to be open and willing to have his ideas and thoughts challenged or at the very least poked that by me in this interview. We talked at great length about his definition of street photography and we got into the differences between social documentary and social commentary in photography. I think you will enjoy getting to know Eric, I know I did. You may not agree with his approach or all of his views but you'll definitely learn to respect the man. Eric travels the world teaching people to face their fears by photographing strangers in some of the most interesting and challenging places. He's done collaborations with Magnum as well as the Invisible Photographer. His motto is “Always shoot with a smile, and from the heart area.”
You can follow Eric Kim on:
Eric's Blog: HERE
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Feb 29, 2012
Jerod Foster is an editorial and natural history photographer based out of Lubbock, Texas, as well as a photography instructor at Texas Tech University. His work focuses on features and environmental portraits for magazines, books, and commercial purposes. Jerod contributes to the Manfrotto School of Xcellence, an educational resource for amateurs and professionals alike. He is also a partner and editor for Badlands Design and Production, a publishing house that focuses on high-end coffee table photography books. I met Jerod online like so many of my friends these days. Then one day I get an email from him that he wants to interview me. Wait ! - That is my line. I am the one who does the interviewing. Well, it turned out he was writing a book for our good friends at Peachpit/New Riders entitled "Storyteller: A photographer's Guide to Developing Themes and Creating Stories with Pictures
". After the interview, which ended up in the book, by the way, I realized we had a lot to talk about. So we decided to continue with our conversation here.
Dec 15, 2011
I have known Keith Talley for years. Keith he is a commercial photographers out of Texas. Not the glam kind that take shots of sexy models in skimpy underwear. Keith’s has more talent that that, he makes vinyl flooring look sexy. Frankly, that’s talent. When he is not traveling all over the US shooting industrial product for clients, he is playing golf. Apparently, pretty darn good at it too. I wouldn’t know, all I ever hit is air when I play the silly game. When he is not doing that he is giving his time to some charity or church traveling to Africa or India shooting projects for them. In this episode of Depth of Field I speak with Keith about making a living in hard times. What’s the secret? He had his best year last year and in a small town like Temple, Texas! I chose Keith for this interview for just this reason, I wanted folks to hear the story of a working photographer, not unlike themselves. Sometimes our guests can seem bigger than life and I listeners might feel they are almost surreal. Not Keith, he works hard and make a great living and like all my guest, is a great person at the core. Visit Keith’s website HERE Follow him on Facebook HERE. You can listen to more Depth of Field podcasts HERE.
Dec 5, 2011
My only problem with Mitchell Kanashkevich is his name - I can't pronounce it! Mitch is an amazing photographer that at any given moment can be found documented the world with his camera. From the surfer miners of Java to shepherds in India passion lies in capturing disappearing ancient cultures and the human condition in unique, challenging situations. His has an uncanny knack of finding the most amazing light. I have known Mitch for six or seven years. We first met online on the Travel Photography Network. He struck me then brash and bold. I now realize what I had mistaken for brash and bold was self confidants and an overabundance of talent. You have to visit Mitch's gallery HERE
and visit his blog HERE
. Mitch is represented by both Getty and Corbis. He is the author of six ebooks and you can find them HERE
. Enjoy this interview with my friend Mitchell Kanashkevich.
Oct 31, 2011
I met John McDermott this past summer in Angkor Wat while I was co-leading a workshop there. McDermott is typical of the photographers I interview, modest, unassuming and willing to share his story. He first came to Angkor in 1995 to witness a total eclipse of the sun. Inspired by the surreal, otherworldly light of the eclipse, he returned again and again over the next several years to create a definitive artistic portrait of the ancient Khmer temples. In addition to his Angkor work, McDermott has continued his fine art project throughout Southeast Asia, focusing on ancient temples and cultural heritage sites. He now lives with his wife and son in Siem Reap, Cambodia, where he founded three galleries that exhibit the work of Cambodian artists and photographers working across Asia. John McDermott’s work is on display as part of the permanent collection at the National Museum in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. His photographs are held in private collections worldwide and have been printed in numerous books and publications, including Time, Newsweek, The International Herald Tribune, and The New York Times. He continues to photograph around the world, and his latest project will take him to Kenya and Tanzania.
Jun 11, 2011
This is the third Depth of Field I have done with David duChemin. David is always an interesting and challenging interview and of course entertaining. But this interview is slightly different. I say slightly different because it’s still interesting, challenging and entertaining but this one is full of emotion. In this interview, David and I speak about his fall. Some say “fall from grace”. I would argue that he fell with grace and mercy. Because, as he describes this fall it was only mercy that kept him alive and is grace that keeps him going. In this interview not only do we talk about his fall we also talked about a couple of his rants and pet peeves. I know you will enjoy and be challenged by this interview with David duChemin.
May 30, 2011
In this Depth of Field I speak with Esther Havens. Ether Havens is a Humanitarian Photographer. She captures stories that transcend a person's circumstances and reveal their true strength. For many years she has worked on social-awareness campaigns with organizations such as charity: water, TOMS Shoes, Concern Worldwide and A Glimmer of Hope. Her images compel thought and challenge action. She has traveled to over 45 nations in the last 10 years -- and she'll keep going until she sees that every person on the planet has access to education and clean drinking water. At heart, she is a connector, fostering relationships across continents, cultures, industries and perspectives. While not traveling, Esther calls Austin, Texas home. This interview is destined to be a classic. Esther and I have been trying to set up this for over a year. When we finally got our schedules to match up we made up for lost time. Esther speaks openly and frankly from her heart and shares her concerns of the current trends in humanitarian photography. She speaks honestly about her values and where she thinks the ethical line should be in this type of photography. She is unabashedly a Christian and views the world from this point of view. This interview is full of opinions and thoughts that will no doubt challenge anyone interested in photographing the poor and less fortunate of this world. Check out Esther Havens' photo stories and website HERE
. Follow here on Twitter HERE
May 26, 2011
It has been some time since the last Depth of Field. My apologies for that. I think this will make up for it. A native Texan, Stacy Pearsall joined the US Air Force in 1997. After serving in Nebraska and then later in England she was assigned to the 1st Combat Camera Squad. Now retired, this former Staff Sargent combat photographer became a two-time winner of the Military Photographer of the Year award (the only woman ever to win it twice), has stared her own business and was even featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Not only is Stacy an amazing photographer she is a hero in the truest form of the word. During her three tours in Iraq, she earned the Bronze Star Medal and Commendation with Valor for heroic actions under fire. In this interview I speak with Stacy about how she became a photographer and what a combat photographer does. She tells us stories about her time in Iraq and what she is doing now. Whether you are an American or not, if you are photographer, this will be an interesting listen.
Jan 7, 2011
There are interviews I do that are really informative and then there are those that are just plan fun. Then on rare occasions there are times I spend with a photographer in an interview that are both really fun and informative. My time with Bambi Cantrell was one of those, fun and informative interviews. She has numerous awards and honors including in 2007 American Photo Magazine named her as one of the “10 Best Wedding Photographers in the world.” Bambi is a sought after instructor and has a knack of making the complicated simple and manageable. This interview is packed full of wisdom and advise. You might find yourself listening to this a couple of times.
Dec 16, 2010
Brian Storm is one of the movers and shakers in both the fields of photojournalism and multimedia production. With my interest in combining still images with audio and video, it was a no-brainer that I had to interview this man. MediaStorm is Brian’s web-based, award-winning multimedia production house and agency that works with the world’s best visual storytellers to create cinematic narratives that speak to the heart of the human condition. MediaStorm has lifted the bar in this genre, in both what can be done and in how it is to be done. Brian and I talk about his vision for MediaStorm and how he made it happen. He also spoke quite candidly about the current state of multimedia and its future. Brian is not one to pull punches; he says it like he sees it. I know you will enjoy this interview with MediaStorm’s founder and photojournalist, Brian Storm.
Follow MediaStorm on Twitter at @mediastorm and subscribe to the MediaStorm newsletter HERE.
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Jul 29, 2010
A few weeks back Michael Clark and I got into a fight. It was a knock-down-drag-out kind of fight and the internet won all, but the last round. Michael is patient man that allowed me to keep calling his home until we finally had decent line. Thank you Michael.
Not only is he a patient man, Michael Clark is an internationally published outdoor photographer specializing in adventure sports, travel, and landscape photography. His editorial and corporate clients include National Geographic, Sports Illustrated, Outside, Men’s Journal, Outdoor Photographer, Digital Photo Pro, pause…take a breath… Climbing, Nike, Nikon, Adobe, Patagonia, Pfizer and DuPont to name just a few. He has risked life and limb on a variety of assignments to bring back stunning images of rock climbers, mountaineers, kayakers, and mountain bikers pushing their sports to the limit in remote locations around the world. Michael and I spoke about his work as an adventurer photographer, how he got his start, and how he continues to be one of the most sought after photographers in the business.
We also talk at some length about his newsletter and how it has been a huge help at marketing himself and his work. After listening you might want to subscribe, you can find the link HERE. His blog (well worth the read!) is HERE and his portfolio can be found HERE. I hope you enjoy this interview.
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May 9, 2010
Meeting with Trey Ratcliff online for an interview was about as easy as pulling teeth. This guy is busy. I thought we would never make our schedules match. The irony is after a ton of emails, and a hand full of miss-connects over Skype; after finally getting the interview with him, then posting a blog post about his influence on my Creative Commons position – after all this; we ended up on the same flight from Narita (Tokyo, Japan) to SFO sitting about ten rolls apart. Strange world we live in. Trey Ratcliff is a huge name in the HDR (High Dynamic Range) community and blog Stuck in Customs is widely popular. Recently he published his first book with our good friends over at Peachpit Press titled “A World in HDR“. It is a 200 page coffee table book of his images with a HDR tutorial at the end. To be fare, I am not very knowledgeable about HDR, so I was not really sure what to expect from the interview. I soon found out Trey is yet another one of those “truly nice guy photographers”. We didn’t have long, this ran only 30 minutes in length, but very interesting. Trey knowledge about HDR is astounding and his joy for this medium is apparent. The guy literally sees the world in HDR. Take some time, listen to this his unique take on photography and life. Enjoy.
Dec 2, 2009
This past September we where fortunate to have Ami Vitale as a guest instructor on our Ladakh Lumen Dei photo workshop. It was a great experience and I deepened a friendship. Hear me when I say, Ami Vitale is the real deal. She is a true, in the trench, get dirty photojournalist; And she’s one of the best out there. She’s tough, street smart and incredibly talented. But she’s also sensitive and very caring about the people she’s around. I don’t mean other photographers, though she is that as well. I mean, to the people she’s in and amongst photographing. I learned a lot from her over those two weeks. Ami taught me to slow down, and not just photograph the moment but to enjoy and savor. Our paths first crossed many years at a Any Thing Mac, a local Mac repair shop in New Delhi. Ami was covering Kashmir and I was living there and we both had Mac issues. I had no idea who she was. I thought to myself, this little lady is going to get her self blown up if she’s not careful. I think she was thinking something similar about me. This last September was the first time we actually got to shoot together. I certainly hope we get to do it again. Ami’s work has appeared in all the top magazines; National Geographic, Newsweek, Time and more. She was named Magazine Photographer of the Year by the National Press Photographers Association, and Photo District News recognized her as one of 30 image makers of the future.